A Second Podcast Discussion from the UN Climate Negotiations in Madrid

Greetings once again from Madrid!  In addition to my speaking engagements and meetings here at COP-25 (What to Expect at COP-25 in Madrid), I’m recording discussions with some key individuals participating in the climate talks who can provide substantial insight.

Today, I offer up my discussion Paul Watkinson, Chair of the Subsidiary Body for Scientific and Technological Advice (SBSTA) within the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).   He provides a valuable review and assessment of the latest developments at the UN Climate Change conference (COP-25) in a new episode of “Environmental Insights: Discussions on Policy and Practice from the Harvard Environmental Economics Program.”  You can listen to the interview and discussion here.


Watkinson has been closely involved in international climate change negotiations for many years, and in the discussion he expresses his hopes and expectations for agreement in Madrid this week on a mechanism designed to accurately measure the performance of the signatories to the Paris Climate Agreement of 2016 in cases in which the parties have transferred emissions amongst one another under the Agreement’s Article 6.

The discussion with Watkinson is the fourth episode in the Environmental Insights series, and the second recorded at COP-25 in Madrid, the first being an interview with Andrei Marcu, founder and executive director of the European Roundtable on Climate Change and Sustainable Transition, released on December 8th.

Let me remind you that our very first episode of “Environmental Insights” featured my interview with Gina McCarthy, former Administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (who is leaving Harvard to become President of the Natural Resources Defense Council).  Our second episode featured Nick Stern of the London School of Economics discussing his career, British politics, and efforts to combat climate change.

Overall, “Environmental Insights” is intended to inform and educate listeners about important issues relating to an economic perspective on developments in environmental policy, including the design and implementation of market-based approaches to environmental protection.  In hosting these podcast episodes, I interview interesting and accomplished people who are working at the intersection of economics and environmental policy.

“Environmental Insights” is hosted on SoundCloud, and is also available on iTunes, Pocket Casts, Spotify, and Stitcher.